So she succeeded after much effort in touching the hem of His garment, and as she touched the hem of His garment, there flowed into her body the quickening lifestream, and she felt in her body that she was made whole of the plague. Does anyone know whats happened to Randall Lowrey? The government then investigated their family when they began homeschooling. Officials found nothing wrong. The term witchcraft is only being applied to that which is not of God, not to that which is of God. It says He was manifested (incarnated) to take away our sins while there was no sin in Him. I heard it from a preacher some years ago. Everything was dependent on the Spirits uniting men to God through their faith. Holy Spirit encouragement is rare these days. We are not pulling down anyone. Upon Sndergaard's arrival in the U.S. in 2019, he immediately applied for asylum and set up his residence in California while he grew his ministry. But, do you recall a single event, where Jesus did something that the heathen did, or that the enemy did? 3 And he said to them, To what then were you baptized? Ample scriptures indicate that they will appear as ministers of the gospel, not ministers of the enemy. This is very subjective and there is absolutely no way for anyone watching the video to say with certainty if these healings are genuine or not, based on just watching the video. The arm had been totally severed at the shoulder. Then we have WALKING ON WATER.PETER DID TOO for a short time. This is just my personal belief and not only will we do all that God commands us, but His very Glory will go before us. I continued to suffer pain for almost another year, before going to a chiropractor, where I was first x-rayed, then we discussed my history. Pretty messybut pretty amazing that God loves people that much, There were plenty of historical (1700s and 1800s and early 1900s)revival preachers that wrote about being unprepared for what it looks like for a whole congregation to be deliveredit scared them, it made them doubt that it was of God because it was so bizarre. The answer to that question is I most certainly try when I feel the Lord speaking to me. He had no interest in any institutional organization with worldly offices and laws. Those that dont see what this man is doing, are not filled with the Holy Spirit. I believe God is Sovereign and all things happen for a reason, as i came to this site after looking up Leon du Preez( Thanks again), but just when i wanted to share that post, i found this one. See article on biblical explanation of. ***In this era ofCENSORSHIP and CANCEL CULTURE, Please sign up forCBN Newslettersto keep receiving the latest news you need.***. Amen. You mean well but you are not. Could you ever imagine Jesus holding up a persons legs, showing the legs to be different sizes? Ruining the faith of the faithful is most important to him. Each time they went into battle, THEY INQUIRED OF THE LORD and the Lord told them to put the Ark of the Lord in front of them..and VOILA..they won the battle. He has regard for all. (Galatians 5:15 NASB), If you slander Gods children then God doesnt like it , I would rather stay silent about someone than slander them. He claims that about 90 percent of all the people, that he or others in his team pray for, are healed. Let me give you an example. THEN they INQUIRED OF THE LORD to see why their men were slaughtered. I do find it interesting how everyone attacks those trying to bring people into the knowledge of the truth. Nothing wrong with asking questions. Jesus fulfilled both circumcision and baptism. Was it not God who originated each miracle and the devils servants Jannes and Jambres who were the copycats ? I would ask any of you to go back and read your posts and if you feel convicted that you were acting in your flesh, to repent and seek Gods forgiveness for doing so. On the contrary, Im sure you hope and pray as I do that they will be aware of and resist the wiles of the adversary and remain in the humble simplicity of Christ, amen! Marilyn- beautiful words Sister Read this article: http://www.chirobase.org/06DD/activator.html. Thats not to say that God wont act through people. Tell me from Gods word why it is wrong to test the spirits? Yeshua is not returning for Christians He is only returning for His sheep who hear His voice and follow Him. Lightening Storm, Who is the one who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God? So, you may now attack the truth once again. Seymour then asked the one-armed man, Can you work with just the one arm? Squashers of joy, and those who make light when someone says theyve been healed by Gods power, would rather remind the church about the warning that many will heal in His Name and do works in His Name and expect entrance into heaven, and Jesus will say, Depart, I never knew you. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section. After ministry, the leg grew out. John 9:4 happen when this is done. Jesus condemned the Pharisees not because they did not belong to His group, but because of their hypocrisy, untruthfulness and lack of love. There is even scripture that says some were casting out demons, and the disciples wanted it stopped yet Yeshua says that they who were for them were not against them and to leave them alone. I have just posted a brief video (above) where Torben discusses the amazing things that happen when this is done. Repentance doesnt end at salvation. One one scripture the practice is built by many churches and the fact of doing something based one scripture is itself against the Word that requires 2 or 3 witnesses. FEAR NOT is listed in the King James version144 times. Or are these myths? But our minds must CONFORM to the mind of Jesus Christ..not continually making up our own way of thinking. Certainly going to a local village for instance and seeing the Elder of a village get healed dramatically by us, is going to get the attention of the whole village on God very quickly and allow the preaching of the word to follow without effort. The deaf were healed and the lame Oh and Moses staff turned into a snake. They will do miracles and mighty works like the magicians in the palace of pharoah, when Moses, on the Lords instruction, had his staff turned into a snake. Wheres the beef in WIERDSVILLE ? Torben Sondergaard was born in 1976 into a non-Christian family. He claims that " about 90 percent of all the people, that he or others in his team pray for, are healed". The fact that He never did such things was not simply that He wanted to make his followers honest and sincere, but also because He was communicating Life, and building a kingdom not of this world or according to its principles. Please let the Holy Spirit discern, not flesh judgement!! If on the other hand a man (like Torbin) comes doing miracles in Jesus name preached the message of the cross of Christ , calls for repentance and faith alone in Christ Jesus and whose godly lifestyle can be verified by those in the community who have know him personally THAT MAN IS SENT BY GOD! In the video at 1:13 min they say you get baptised (in water) FOR THE REMISSION OF YOUR SINS this is 100% not biblical. In this case, I dont know if Toben is an elder or not as that fact is not made clear. Indeed, this is something we need to seriously consider and pray about doing. My answer is simple Jesus never copied ANYONE. Try it you will like it!!! . this man has understanding of what it is all about, going to the needy.Groups of youth go out in Redding, Ca to pray for people. Are you sure what the difference is between washing with water and washing by blood? Likewise, the couple is the parent of their children in every way. Sndergaard also read scripture as part of his defense to show how he was following Christ's commands, making the Bible part of the case record. Torben Sndergaard is part of the Oneness Pentecostal sect. It didnt work. Leaving them to hunger and thirst after more. I think a lot of people need to repent. Jonathan Yet another person who watched the first 30 seconds of the video and ignored the rest. Boy! `And beginning with Moses & with all the prophets, He explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the scriptures.` They complain about the driver, while they sit and do nothing. (Isaiah 60:1-4 KJV) Now you go and dunk yourself in a swimming pool, a bath tub? In addition, the supposed anatomical phenomenon of a shorter leg, has been used by chiropractors as well. Many months later, I was made aware that an O/S visitor with healing ministry was in the area I prayed about this and was convicted that God would heal me that evening. GaryB quoted the right scripture in Acts 5:38-39, And now I say to you, keep away from these men and let them alone; for if this plan or this work is of men, it will come to nothing; but if it is of God, you cannot overthrow itlest you even be found to fight against God.. Once burned twice shyis not a bilixal concept!!! I may have been a bit unclear in my position regarding what Chas 351 has said. Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judea, Herod being tetrarch of Galilee, his brother Philip tetrarch of Iturea and the region of Trachonitis, and Lysanias tetrarch of Abilene, while Annas and Caiaphas were high priests, the word of God came to John the son of Zacharias in the wilderness. If you really believe it and are willing to stake your life on it why dont you say that? Andrew and Torben, you are positively RIGHT ON! He is an independent agent creating his own kingdom of the world, presenting it as the Kingdom of God. What flesh can resist that over time! A hand that miraculously turns leperous; and just as miraculously is healed. When you are genuinely born again you prayed to Jesus Christ and you repented to Jesus Christ and ask Him for forgiveness of all your sins and because of this you are automaticallyspirituallybaptizedinto the One and only Baptism of the Jesus Christ, there after the Holy Spirit will come toabide in youpermanently. Amen Jonathan, Amen Lord come Lord Jesus through Your Church to demonstrate Your Gospel the Power of Your Gospel to the world , namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation. 3) to fear, reverence, honour, respect Start that IN ME MY GOD!!!! But I guess thats what powerless religion us all about. Torben Sndergaard is part of the Oneness Pentecostal sect. Trenton- thanks for your question regarding whether Jesus ever copied one the the worlds methods or tricks they are good questions. The truth about Torben Sondergaard and the Last Reformation. This video speaks of the amazing things that happen when you take new believers out healing the sick, preaching and baptizing, etc. Han er stifter og talsperson for "The Last Reformation" med titusindvis af flgere. Exd 4:7 KJV And he said, Put thine hand into thy bosom again. The simplicity, the sincerity & humbleness is so refreshing to see. And they said to him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. Others fall into the Youre right on that. 2. (Acts 10:38 NASB), Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever. He said the hardest part is being separated from his wife and children. (Acts 19:4) Then said Paul,John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.. My kids and I actually went out and did it too. But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. Too PRE-OCCUPIED with the works of the devil. Well, after reading about their prophetic training ministry (which is almost identical to Rick Joyners) and reading the SOZO handbook (which is new age mixed with Christianity for Johnsons healing rooms) and many testimonies, I have more than enough to warn my friend. Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee. Bill Johnson, and all these false prophets, teachers, evangelists, Earlier this year I felt the Lord placed it on my heart to investigate Bill Johnson , I started with what Bethel expressed as what they believe I dont see anything wrong with the statement of what they believe which I posted previously on this thread, I then listened to a number of Bill Johnsons sermons (videos) on YouTube they were all recent I tried to listen to as recent as I could, He honoured the Lord Jesus He honoured knowing the Lord Jesus He honoured the Lord Jesus words I am not saying that I agreed 100% with every single thing I heard him share but he definitely believes that Jesus is God and is Man always was God and always will be God, I am judging him by his own confession and his own confession of surrender to the Lord Jesus and he has committed himself to the Lord Jesus and is living to honour him I could tell this through the spirit of what he was sharing in his sermons, In the sermons I watched on YouTube which were at Bethel, Redding there was prayer for the sick where people gathered around those who were sick and prayed for them I didnt see anything weird or suspect or new age or whatever in any of these YouTube videos this was happening in their services praying for the sick and people were expressing that they were healed , Bill Johnson is going after healing He is taking seriously Jesus words, Heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out demons and is wanting his life and the life of his local congregation to demonstrate this, I never heard him call himself a prophet or a healer or anything else for that matter, He came across to me as a very humble man who knew the Lord personally, had surrendered himself to Him and wanted to serve and please Him, I was blessed by many of the things which I heard him share and know that he is my brother is Christ, Does that mean that hes never made a mistake in his life? To me, he is one of the few preachers Rejoicing was continuous as the crowd went wild. Holy Father, KEEP THEM IN YOUR NAME, the name which You have given Me, that they may be one even as We are. Sure there will be people who say Lord did we not cast out demons, heal the sick etc. Initially, he was shocked. 1 John 3:5. Susan healing is for everywhere, not just outside the church. I have experience many healing on the streets and meetings out side the church because the church is afraid these healing might take. I must say your eisegesis is astonishing. They believe in the Divinity, they must be our brother/sister, right? He said that they needed to be naked before the Lord, or the Lord would not give him prophetic words for them. b) to fear, be afraid Torben is a preacher, teacher, and author who was born in 1976 in Herning, Denmark. I believe that our God is a might God who is 100% sovereign over everything, including life and death. That was 25 years ago and it never went back. We are also men of the same nature as you, and preach the gospel to you that you should turn from these vain things to a living God, WHO MADE THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH AND THE SEA AND ALL THAT IS IN THEM. The Holy Spirit & His Word agree. Jesus also gave the great commission, in Mat 28:18-20 saying All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. To PROVE to the people that GOD EXISTS and He is Who He says He is! Hallelujah. Lets see why: Baptism in water was for Jewish unbelievers. It is very glorifying to God to see His manifold wisdom displayed in manifold ways through His many people. i would be interested in your comments on Isaiah Saldivar who has miracles happening on the streets, in his home and in church. He touched the ear of the servant of the high priest. There is a great emphasis in the Last Reformation Movement on feelings and the gifts and their 'model for church' is confined to Acts. Bill Johnson, and all these false prophets, teachers, evangelists, This is a VERY important part of following Jesus , He tells everyone to do this . At some point This is how His Kingdom comes in the earth! A GLOWING FACE that appears WEIRD enough to scare others There is no excuse for making such premature judgments and posting them in post after post in public. However, I watched the second video first. Yeah, I think the bottom line is that people really need to read their bible more, and pray as you do it. You will see it works. [3] INTERVIEW WITH DR. BROWN Thank you Lord. By its fruit you will know whether the tree is good or bad. This went on for quite some time, before he was exposed. Evangelist Torben Sondergaard As a national threat for bringing firearms into the country, Torben Sondergaard was detained. Torben makes friends for himself and not for the Living Resurrected Lord of all. TLR is a classic cult and Torben Sondergaard is a classic cult leader. Those that would criticize any such testing should take a step back and realize there is nothing unbiblical about testing such spirits as long as it is done with the right intent. Yet there is unity in this diversity, as long as we see Christ Jesus our Lord as the reason for our unity. Quote.. Trenton a brief video (above) where Torben discusses the amazing things that nitpick every instance of the supernatural or the gifts of the signs/wonders (using the gifts given us) will follow and subsequently souls saved for the Kingdom. Rather than deal with this in a respectable and honest manner, all that happens is people resort to name calling, ridicule, and saying that just because multitudes of people believe it, therefore it must be true. 3.and receive the Holy Spirit of Jesus as their Helper and Comforter. etc. Are they saying that Roman Catholics who speak in tongues are born again as well? So then, after the Lord had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God. He gave specific examples of sharing the Gospel and how the power of God has manifested throughout his time in ministry," a spokesman for his legal team said. In short, he is part of NAR.Although my area of focus has been on American leaders of NAR, I do want to draw people's attention to this European teacher as someone to watch. I dont want to put myself on par with Jesus and assume my obedience to the Father is perfect; it isnt. Barry, my dear friend in Jesus, you have shown us exactly what our Lord wants us all to begin doing in these last days. What I will do differently than what I saw in the first video is to not make a big deal about what happened if God heals them. Since all we have available to us is what is on the video, lets use that and test the spirit we see in the video. But Yeshua calls His followers sheep. But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard of it, they tore their robes and rushed out into the crowd, crying out and saying, Men, why are you doing these things? Johnsons bethel healing rooms use techniques such as father ladders, fruit loop, and four doors. The Manuel is full of rules and regulations. Youve asked if I obey everything that Jesus tells me to do. But let Gods people yield to Jesus and let their Jesus light shine out of them and the world will begin to hate Gods people, will begin to respect Gods people, will begone to fear Gods people and multitudes will begin to LISTEN TO GODS PEOPLE for the lost sheep will begin hear the voice of the Shepherd IN HIS PEOPLE AND WILL FOLLOW HIM. Perceiving then that they were about to come and take him by force to make him king, Jesus withdrew again to the mountain by himself. you begged and pleaded for because you refuse to repent. Playing and mimicking what only Jesus can do like cheap Elvis impersonators! This prophesy shall be fulfilled in Gods people ! acting through Torben, to see if it is from God. The KINDness of God with that authenticity of seed in the fruit and not fruit alone. I did nothing of myself ! Think of what was inside the arkthe tablets of stone written by the finger of Godmiraculously. This move of God will be marked by love, unselfconscious holiness, fullness of joy and deep loyalty to Jesus and to each other . As we can see, being baptised by the Holy Spirit in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ doesnt involve any laying on of hands, just BELIEVING. All those people say they got healed and you call them liars, prove they are lying! He told the story that immediately after he was born again, he read the scripture saying to lay hands on the sick and they shall recover. Update from Friends of Torben. 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