42 online submissions ALL supporting the wall but many seem to think it would be a sloping rock construction. Also, it's a not so secret secret, anyone who speaks out about this have been known to disappear. As hostile native rescue party moves in for the killOh the Humanityreads Humilityreads Kook! Both Donohoe and Gorden were correct, up to a point: The construction began with concrete piles sunk six metres below sea level, protected by a rock toe. Basically the awarding of contracts falls across a couple of ministries. Adjacent a second wall constructed just to the north, the half finished revetment was torn to rubble with dangerous rebar, boulders and cement being washed into the surf zone. The people responsible for awarding the contracts get huge kickbacks. However, a few queries regarding your post: "Sure if youve bought the last 5 years ignorance cant be an excuse" - why does five years give one grace? Can't see sand staying around with all that crazy activity. It's only a temporary feature. The Collaroy Beach seawall project was put to the test for the first time today with the arrival of a moderate to large east-northeast groundswell from ex-Tropical Cyclone Seth, coinciding with a king tide. Instead they provide a caveat for bulldozing sand from low on the beach to higher on the beach in times of heightened storm activity - which only lowers the beachs natural defence system. However, the work then continued skyward with a seven metre vertical concrete wall on top of the foundations. The Local Government Act allows the council to set a special rate to pay for that. Moreover, the current DA makes no mention of sand nourishment from sand sourced elsewhere, such as deeper water offshore. Over the coming fortnight there's a couple more swell forecast from the east-northeast and that'll really put the structures to the test. BB has there been any attempt to take the process to the Land and Environment Court? If you look at the photo of the wall there appears to be a set of stairs built into the concrete for each property. These impacts would have been explicitly tied to that particular design option by the engineers and other specialists involved. If you don't know know shit about the processes of the ocean and coastal erosion then please put your hand up and say so. A seven-metre high wall erected to protect beachside mansions from being washed away has sparked debate among locals in a wealthy Sydney suburb. I dare say the neighbours are on notice too. Indeed. The software built for Kelly's wave pool was also a big leap forward to modeling actual breaking waves and I really hope they share that knowledge with the rest of the scientific community to help forward our understanding. Seawall construction isnt mentioned. Thanks so much zen! Unfortunately groynes or artificial headlands are not part of the certified Coastal Zone Management Plan CZMP (2014). The sooner we (as humans) acknowledge the nature of nature, and work with it instead of against it, the better for everybody. At what point are they a write-off? @dawnperiscope gsco, I'd have thought that the first hurdle for any enhancement - besides the environmental impacts - would be the issue of access and whether the investment creates something with the most benefit for the most people. exports the same quantity of energy in green electricity and hydrogen as it exports in thermal coal and liquefied natural gas. We took the easy way, down towards the ocean and along on the back of the dune. Last Model Run: 15 Jan 11:00AM Local time (AEDT) 15 Jan 12:00AM GMT Data Status: OK. Run Age 9hrs. Joint Venture adopts new name, Te Puna Aonui. lilas Manly Hydraulics did the work which was used for the initial design but I am not so sure about their input on what was finally constructed. This clearly did not happen at Collaroy. Take the houses away eventually they would be building a wall to protect that road that you whinging moles drive around on for 20min checking it. It is possible that this is part of the Silverback's Seachange pork barrel rollout. At this point, the relocation business case doesn't seem to stack up. While celebrating his record for coastal protection with a park on the Collaroy-Narrabeen stretch, Northern Beaches council was also processing a Development Application thatd threaten the very same beach. Owners of storm-devastated Collaroy properties on Sydney's northern beaches face paying up to $140,000 each for a new sea wall that might have saved their homes had it been there at the weekend. Rad demo john interesting as Craig said to see the changes in shock waves returning seaward. @Craig - Seem us humans have been doing dumb shit for quite a while now. I guess that makes offshore options quite limited, So I'm a little confused as to why there are hardly any real solutions put forward to deal with coastal erosion in 2021, despite our huge body of scientific knowledge regarding the issue. There's been a lot of work done to gain a better understanding of the value of the beach re both market and non-market economic benefits. In the end it's all pretty simple though, as most beach erosion of consequence is caused by large/powerful waves. I'd be happy to help draft it offline. Yep. I've looked at the general location plan of the cables and it seems there is a good say 500m- 1000m distance between groups of them along the beach, and they are buried for the first 500m out from the shore, so I would say there is a good chance of working within those areas in consultation with the cable authorities. And it would also provide some useful evidence for fighting against any similar future proposals. Or as the comment above lists - quoted by Prof Short - not let the property developers and real estate industry interfere with good management strategy decades ago that would have avoided council being left with a steaming pile of shit. @dawnperiscope. They may have a wall, but there will be no beach in front of it. And it was created many years ago when coastal property was much lower in value and the bang for buck was much higher. More than likely entombed in one of those tetrapod molds you mentioned above. Owners, Council and 'engineersshame shame shame. Im sure Fraser Island will give some back.. Heard rumours that the Wamberal Seawall has got green light hopefully the central coast council read this article. Large waves have a lot of energy and must be forced to break further out to sea to dissipate the energy before reaching the sand shoreline. All the reaserch I did seemed to show that the headland affect and beaches just north of those headlands, i.e. why should the taxpayer pay to protect a small number of private landholders who actively choose to profit from purchasing in a tidal zone? nothings going to stop him on his daily dip. 47 votes, 47 comments. Those properties are the responsibility of the owners. You said "They get paid to do what they are told to do" Were they told told to design a system that would not work for the purpose and only exacerbate the problem? How about dredging narrabeen lagoon?? Nothing can ever excuse extremely poor and ill-conceived designs. Not to mention the many brutalist houses dotting its once beautiful headlands. Statements such as the two below can only be classified as opinion unless you link to references. Where the only issue is private property things are a bit simpler. Here Willi. Craig Brokensha on the Sunshine Coast there is a similar 'future' proposal for a rock wall between Alexandra Headlands and Maroochydore beaches. Link any useful papers youve found. There's no sense at all in building something like this from an engineering perspective. Seawall construction isn't mentioned. I put up links to both DAs the other day. Collaroy has a long history of property erosion, yet a century after it was first documented theres no consensus about how it should be managed. It looks like Chernobyl. Honestly he might be correct based on the Manly erosion hahhaa. Yep, basically pork-barrelling on a massive scale and the Japanese sold them the lie too. Highly unlikely! The properties were bought in good faith, said one local who wished to remain anonymous, and the owners must feel an obligation for the authorities to protect them, but a seawall is last century thinking.. To my way of thinking, and with a working understanding of government process, the real issue is the approval process. There is no better option. Go figure! This is associated with above-average wave heights related to Tropical Cyclone Seth and also elevated ocean water levels associated with very high tides, Mr Horton said. My understanding is that the hard seawall was constructed with the specific intention to protect the private property behind the wall. In the other pic you can see the completed section of the wall. Willi, how would easterlies impact the Great Ocean Road coast? !.Basic, crude, primitive, a fcukn disgrace and no regard for the beauty of the areajust shit!.Year 7 school project standard. the council up here is anti sea walls, but there is a thread that runs through them very much of "stuff the beachfront guys - they are rich". This wicked problem is a result of intergenerational dumbness. Collaroy homes along Pittwater Rd have been cordoned off today. Between these three, you can protect any shore from water erosion. I avoid it because I dont think anyone truly is except for a small % of big players who manipulate the market (or act like the house) and the rest just ride the peaks and troughs. The reef/sand nourishment are both mainly designed to widen and protect the public property, ie the beach, in front of the buried seawall. Until then the owners can continue to enjoy their delightful seashore experience. A horizontal reef is also a "Hard Structure" yet it acts in a very different way to a Vertical Sea Wall such as the Collaroy one. consultant reports and community consultation no doubt funded by state money. Can't wait to see the classic "Dick and Balls" painted on that big ugly fucker. I am safely 140m above sea-level now so that should be safefor a while hahaha. No more excuses for your terrible workmanship anymore. At the same time it would put an end to the constant dredging and relocating of sand from Narrabeen There isnt much fetch so its only ever weak 1-4ft tops of onshore wave after wave onslaught, this a particular problem at high tide caus most bays and points usually go flat at high tide but under an easterly scenario the easterly windswell pushes right up to the dunes, and easterly swells require lots of wind and from what Ive read on swellnet these large storms if the pressure is low enough will raise sea levels higher than normal. Am I missing something with the job title there? Yep totally agree. If you are referring to Vertical hard structures then that needs to be specified). Sea level rise equation is based on the Bruun Rule to ascertain erosion in open coastal areas like Collaroy. Much bigger. I do however feel there needs to be more separation regarding fact and opinion in your article. As a result, if the sea erodes the shoreline (and the tidal level moves inland) it encroaches upon land once part of someone's private land title. heres a rad idea for you,dig canal from coast to central Australia which is considerably below sea level and flood the interior.could also be done in death valley USA.now that could be a wave pool!! Section 2.4 Item 4 - classic stuff. By creating offshore reefs that only interact with the largest [damaging] swell events, the normal beach processes can be maintained by allowing small to medium swells to pass unaffected and continue the normal flow of sand. I think the wall is actually a good warning of exactly what governments mean by "adaptation and mitigation"..expensive projects for the construction industry rather than sound ecological management. Shit.That looks like they are preparing for an invasion. This can easily be achieved by creating offshore reefs that reduce the energy to a level the beach can cope with. Bumper Farrell had the prime position. property owners in Collaroy have seen the value of their asset increase by around 20-30% in the last 12 months alone. [ask GaryG] They are frequently used in locations where further shore erosion will result in excessive damage, e.g. Including the residents behind the great wall. Comparing the swell to those of last year it wasn't of any major significance but it shows the futile efforts trying to protect property with a hard structure. Their ultimate solution was a combination of 3 things- a rock boulder seawall buried in the dunes as a final line of defense in extreme erosion events to protect private properties behind (this seawall actually runs for the full extent of the Gold Coast nth beaches but is rarely seen as it is completely buried under dunes/vege), an offshore reef, also rock boulders, to attenuate wave energy under normal conditions thus widening the beach in its lee, and lastly- sand nourishment, adding more sand to the beach system. But several of those areas experiencing recession are linked to important infrastructure that the authorities want to protect - depending on were you are, the GOR also houses telecoms, sewerage and other infrastructure. Has been for a while. I tear up and swear to myself. Alas this would have meant some loss / damage to private property. At what point do we put an end to this insanity. I have to disagree. The activism of Tom Kirsop is legendary and in December 2019 Northern Beaches Council honoured him with a park at Narrabeen called Surfrider Gardens. I get informed about a proposed bike lane two suburbs away, questions an aghast Donohoe, but I hear nothing about construction abutting a nearby public beach?, Gordon was equally puzzled: I guess people become frustrated with the bureaucratic process and find ways of not involving the public. The council will buy me out at any price if things get too hot". The council now will not release the relevant documents without a formal application and even then would no doubt find reasons to withhold the significant parts. I do know the metro area was excluded from the NSW Coastal Policy for a long time because it was seen as too difficult, and that the CLPS was focussed on environmental values. Apparently this is just one part of the seawall. Great article highlighting the competing interests of the natural environment and local councils (which are too easily manipulated by wealthy stakeholders). Gold Coast City Council had a similar problem to Collaroy at Palm Beach Qld. The matter is currently under investigation by Environmental . Yep need to see front on pic The concern about the seawall stems from the dynamic nature of sand dunes and how introducing a hard structure onto the foredune interferes with the natural state of flux. Rock barrels at its best! https://files.northernbeaches.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/collaroy-na Collaroy Stormwater Pipe Outlet https://files.northernbeaches.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/collaroy-na https://nationalprecast.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Collaroy-Beach https://www.9news.com.au/national/weather-nsw-sydney-collaroy-surfer-pul https://lighthouse.mq.edu.au/article/september-2021/Living-Seawalls-in-g https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/tarzans-stormy-st-clair-skinny-dip. (As we all know, unfortunately, money/wealth/property seems to be many people's priority, and corrupt opportunists step in to "help" with that). "Environmental vandalism or gross negligence?". The sea wall forms a permanent, stationary barrier between the sea and the land. From the last set of minutes from the Wamberal Seawall advisory Taskforce Nov 18 2021. There's no homes or businesses, or very few to speak of- doesn't come close to justifying the cost of the wall. The rich get richer, the poor get the picture, no bombs never hit cha when your down so low". The sheer number of cables there suggests to me that an offshore reef proposal would be unsuccesful. The Northern Beaches took a massive hit by big surf and a king tide . development, carparks & roads behind the hind dunes leading to biketracks, walkways, supporting the community including From deep state secret spot to modern media darling, what lessons can we learn from Cape Solander's evolution? My comment was maybe too obscure but was meant to be sarcastic. As mentioned in an earlier post, I place the blame fair and square at coastal engineers who design and approve these ill-fated designs. that would be awesome location for JOb or other jackasses to film fun vids. Criticism of the debris left on the beach, the erosion as the sea ran up against the wall and drew away all the sand during January 2022 swells and the manner in which these works have been carried out prompted council staff to investigate a number of times during the heavy swells, and has been under regular inspection since then. Council and State Government contribute 10% each. But there will also be a range of other social and environmental grants on offer that the LGA will use to leverage off for on-going maintenance. the hardest decisions should be the easiest. Would suck if you got amalgamated into Northern Beaches council then had to pay tax for this. It didn't last long and within 12 hours the sand that was built up against the near finished first wall was 2/3rds washed away. The question is why did the owners go for such an unattractive solution that by all appearances seems to have blocked their beach access. I go to look at the big mistake after a big easterly storm. . >> Quite a worrying statement to begin with. And find outwhy you'll soon hear a hell of a lot more about them. The lessons, it would seem, are still being learnt. Then there is the question of the parameters given to the designers of the second structure. For example, during sunny conditions in Collaroy beach, constructive waves transport eroded sediments from cliffs and headlands to build up the beach. Absolutely spot on, Craig. It would have been a bargain 20-30 years ago to buy the properties and return the space to the public for the purpose of more effective less intrusive, natural and cheaper remediation efforts. Engineered to Australian Standards. Hourly Multiple Swells Wind Highlighting Model Units ft, mph. It's folly to believe you can hold back the Pacific. However, Craig, when you say "Comparing the swell to those of last year it wasn't of any major significance but it shows the futile efforts trying to protect property with a hard structure." Turned this place into a concreters paradise. Hopefully there's someone with deep pockets able to go after the truth of the matter. sea wall is perfect. Normally large swells from the SW have very little affect on the beaches around here because the great ocean rd is comprised of Rocky headland after headland. My working assumption is that they have behaved unethically on this matter. "Update from Council on possible site visit to Northern Beaches: Casey Johnston advised a site visit to Narrabeen-Collaroy is being canvased for early December 2021 to allow review of their seawall in construction. The erosion at Collaroy/Narrabeen Beach is not particularly significant, unusual or surprising. The problem is one of vertical fiscal imbalance. The most notable benefit of sea walls is that they provide excellent protection against coastal erosion and flooding. Usually done by compulsory acquisition with the government working off existing market prices. Didnt hear boo about that from anyone ? The primary mechanism for coastal land acquisition in NSW has been the Coastal Lands Protection Scheme, but it wasn't designed for climate/erosion buy-backs. Structures appeared. If a construction like that ends up being the only realistic option then so be it, but at least they need to be transparent about how they got to that point, and ideally accountable in future if it goes south. and the sick irony of the beach access sign detailing the seawall works with all "enquires to be made Theyve introduced these gently sloped walls to broaden the widths of the roads to protect them from erosion. He said when the work is complete, sand will be pushed up to cover most of the seawall. What sort of idiots approved this shit? I will try and find some pics of my area. Surf Breaks Inc. Coming to a beach near you ! More to come once the other residents agree to pay their contribution. It's a travesty in so many ways and a very poor precedent for other parts of the coast which will be deemed vulnerable to sea level rise. Thanks lilas. I'm not entirely sure, but one of the reasons why an offshore reef structure hasn't been considered for Narrabeen may be because it's part of the Northern Sydney Protection Zone, hosting submarine cables that connect Australia to various parts of the Pacific (including Japan). Is it designed to behave like a bottle-neck? In that regard it seems to have achieved its design objectives very nicely, and the sacrificing of the public beach (and public access/amenity) in front of it is just 'collateral damage'. The Collaroy seawall was in part constructed after a significant storm event in 2016 eroded 50 metres along the Narrabeen and Collaroy shoreline, causing damage to waterside properties. Seawalls of this design have been shown - all over the world- to destroy beaches. As far as I know their job was to asses the designs given to them by the Coastal engineers, not to actually create any designs. A new wavepool development for the Sunshine Coast points to the future of pools in Australia. Their email is: [emailprotected]. They have just set a precedent for the whole east coast of poor me multi millionaire landowners to set up squeaky wheel collectives. This would reduce the lateral movement of sand along this stretch of beach, reducing the natural erosion while creating some great banks. To add a bit of controversy, I've often wondered: Is Carties borderline just a novelty wave? Here is the DA for the wall. The DA for the Collaroy seawall was approved while the Northern Beaches Council was under administration. Fight the good fight mate. The reason is the appearance of a concrete seawall along a stretch of beach between Wetherill Street and Stuart Street, which both run off busy Pittwater Road. There is currently an online petition to stop it extending to the Marquees. Lake that has been going on for the last 20 years. What some consider the ugliest wall in Australia could soon be bigger, with residents pushing to extend the Collaroy seawall on Sydney's northern beaches. Around 80 percent of the cost will be shouldered by the property owners themselves while the remaining 20 percent will be jointly funded by the Northern Beaches Council and the NSW government. Florida is an example. In one of the pics you see plant equipnent tearing up the beach in preparation for constructing a wall. But, I think its just basically supply and demand. The root cause is building on the foredune. https://www.smh.com.au/property/news/coastal-properties-at-highest-clima https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-17/will-climate-change-put-an-end-to Kala Grace In Dramatic Rescue While Competing In Backdoor Shootout, 'Corners Of The Earth: Kamchatka' Tour Dates, Watch: Hossegor Super Session January 6th, Australian Designer To Launch Crescent Head Hotel Amid Local Development Concerns, Dead Marine Life Washes Onto South Oz Beaches After Flooding, Watch: Ryan Callinan // Beneath A Pear Tree, Watch: Cronulla's Jarvis Earle Wins World Junior Title. On top of this they have places sand band grounds out perpendicular to the sandunes. Dates announced for Spencer Frost and Guy Williment's film shot in Russia's far east. A quick Google informs me that they are part of the State government, either Planning or Public Works, which was news to me because its mainly staffed by UNSW academics and is associated with the uni as a research centre. 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