What do you think of Halina Czabens evidence the part about suffocating baby Drake the day before the murders? If her account is true, that puts two armed bad guys in the area not half an hour before the attacks, which lends credence to the intruder theory. In yet another account, she was awoken by the sound of breaking glass. That is NOT in Kathy's book and is not common knowledge, so I was taken aback to see that particular comment. Attorneys Cynthia Garza and Holly N. Dozier of the Dallas County Integrity Unit also gave their approval to the judges order. Wonder who could have threatened Darin? He may not have been able to see the ambulance from his bedroom window. JustinCase976 (author) on February 29, 2020: I do remember that Darlie said they had a psychic come to the house to do a reading. Could it be that his superiors strongly encouraged him to tweak his testimony to support the department's need to portray Darlie as the killer? To believe she is the killer, I would have to believe in one of two scenarios: Even back in 1996 and 1997, I personally was never convinced of Darlie's guilt. None of these areas appear clean. There was no cancelled trip as far as I know. Answer: AFIS works like this: a latent print that cannot be defined as to which hand or finger (left or right) comes into the fingerprint unit. 2023 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. Could you tell us what that conversation was? Quinncy was intrigued enough to start doing some digging. If she was struggling and twisting away from the guy wielding the knife and he slashed at her, the cut would not be a perfect slice all the way across. It was June 6, 1996, and the call was made at 2:31 a.m., with the police arriving merely three minutes later. Rickels turned on the bedroom light and once again, the men ran off. There could be a perfectly logical explanation. The state of Texas gave Darlie Routier the trial and verdict they WISHED they could have given Susan Smith. I do need to do some fact checking, but if everything checks out, I will indeed update the article to include what you shared with me. Arkansas was known for his quick violent temper and substance abuse issues. I believe his shady business deals were the reason this happened, and he knew it, and did everything in his power to keep it from coming back on him. I do not fault him for that; he is human. Then cops found disturbing clues that ultimately put her on death row. The officer, of course, is Matt Walling. Q. Thanks for commenting. Did she struggle with the intruder? That does not, and never will, fall under the category of lying. Someone alleged a 'fired housekeeper & her boyfriend' did it. I'm actually glad that you addressed that, Rachael. JustinCase976, please do not be fooled by all of these fake profiles. Do you remember talking to Detective Waddell there when he came into your house? Darlie should be home fern Christmas. They could not have an unsolved double homicide of two young children and the general public panicking about a lunatic on the loose. When Darlie began to scream for Darin, he ducked into the darkness of the formal dining room, where he waited for his chance to make a break for it. Specifications: Darlie Routier House. As for comforting Damon: she tells him more than once to "Hang on honey, we're calling honey!" Officer Waddell was not actually dispatched to Eagle Drive; he just happened to be nearby when the call came in over the radio. More than one guilter has claimed something to the effect of "Lloyd Harrell's own ineptitude disqualified him from testifying," but that is simply another lie that they tell. I agree completely. Price: $355,000 (sold after the murder for an unknown price) Darlie Routier Address: 801 Eagle Dr, Rowlett, TX 75088. There is no way that bruising was caused by a 46 pound child kicking at her. I stepped over, to look into the garage, just to see if I could see anybody, and told her to apply some pressure to the first child's wounds. So, I did the next best thing: I asked multiple sources close to the case, and received the same response from more than one person: Domain would be brought into the bedroom every night from the first week they got him. When it comes to courtroom trials, it's not about the truth, or even what you can prove. The Routier home, which has 2,740 square feet, is listed for $396,000, or $145 a square foot. The case has received worldwide attention and has been featured on several TV shows as Routier works to prove her innocence through post-conviction petitions in Dallas County and in the U.S. District Court in West Texas. When someone comes up with a cover story, they've usually got their details in order before they start talking. Find a record of young children that were stabbed during a home invasion that took place within a 50-mile radius of Dallas during that time frame, and then maybe I'll budge on my stance that Darlie is innocent. Why, it's all RELATIVE, of course. They don't see the kids sleeping on the floor at first; what they do see is an attractive young blonde asleep on the couch. He actually came from a decent, hard-working, all-American/God fearing family, and I think every night when he tried to sleep he would see Devon's face until he couldn't stand it anymore. "What is a yoot?" Cron did not see Darlie's injuries. Twelve days later, on June 18, 1996, Darlie was arrested. Then she saw Damon was still moving, so she stabbed him a couple more times for good measure, knocked over the vacuum, broke a glass, and then screamed for Darin while running to call 911. The angels: Devon Rush Routier and Damon Christian Routier. and like the article you wrote about the case Speaking of Psychics . As if Rickels' testimony wasn't enough for reasonable doubt, we also have the affidavit filed by Darlene Potter. As a rule, most claims made by inmates are taken well-salted. That's the number one thing convinces me she is guilty. Quinncy was able to meet with Karen while she was incarcerated at the Lubbock County Jail. Darins pants are a problem. That changed when I read Dateline Purgatory: Examining the Case That Sentenced Darlie Routier To Death by Kathy Cruz. She never could get the order of events right when she told the story. That jury was never going to vote not guilty, no matter what. She is not concerned about her own prints being on that knife; it's her knife, from her own kitchen. Guilters will say that Darlie attacked the boys, and then ran down the alleyway to plant the sock before running back to the house, seeing Damon was still alive and moving around, and then stabbing him again before inflicting her own injuries. This would also explain why it appeared as if there were "hesitation" wounds on her neck. None of her three trials were fair. From what Karen remembers hearing from Dwayne upon their return, the men had broken into a house that was supposed to be empty and "f***ed some people up. Was he supposed to keep quiet about that? It is a minute, pinprick DOT. She had some over-the-counter sleeping pills on hand, but as she was writing the note, she abandoned the idea and did the healthiest thing possible: she reached out for help. This is the same officer, by the way, who neglected to collect several bloody towels as evidence, but for some reason retrieved as evidence paperwork on a funeral and headstone for a cat that had died the previous summer. Thats what Id say hang on a sec while I change. She was calling for help, grabbing towels, running back and forth, etc. He enters the Routier home and is immediately bombarded by two hysterical parents screaming (Darin: "Look for a rag! Now, you were first awakened, and like you said, you didn't understand what the noise was, but apparently you drifted back off to sleep? According to her arms, she certainly did. So why the discrepancies? Ive read a lot about this case. That's funny, Laurie! Did you tell Detective Waddell that you had been fighting with the man there at the island area? This had to be the murder that Arkansas was talking about that fall day back in '96! An attorney representing Darlie Routier, a former Altoona woman facing the death penalty in Texas for the murder of her two young children 25 years ago, said he is buoyed by an order issued last week in Dallas County ordering additional DNA testing of the massive amount of evidence collected in the case. He would have had to have been kicking her arms for half an hour straight to cause that kind of bruising. Darlie's Pathfinder was parked in the street; it would have appeared as if no one was home. I honestly have no idea. Steve Cooper has known about this evidence for many years but that maggot has not got Texas to look at it. John Ramsey, when asked why he obtained legal counsel after his daughter, JonBenet, was murdered. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: not even the most hardened criminals would go around talking about stabbing little kids if it never happened. JustinCase976 (author) on February 27, 2020: Czaban's testimony was one of the few that literally made me laugh out loud. There is an innocent white woman going down for all this and it just sickens me. In a move that would turn out to be an epic fail, defense attorney Doug Mulder used this as an excuse to blast the detectives and insinuate to the jury that they had broken the law with their graveyard surveillance. I swear these worms have been eating at me for 3 plus years at this point. It is estimated that there are over 13 million offender profiles, more than 3 million arrestee profiles, and 840,000 forensic profiles in the system as of 2018. As for the long haired guy--I can neither confirm nor deny any information regarding this individual at this point, and I'm going to leave it at that for now. He may have been an experienced police officer, but he was still a parent, and I believe the man just plain froze. A liar already has their story prepared in their mind. There were also cleaning supplies kept under the sink. I believe that when Darlie turned her back to tell Damon to stay back, the guy doubled back down the hallway. You might believe you remember the screech of brakes, the smell of burnt rubber, the smashing of metal upon metal, the windshield shatteringwhen in reality, this "memory" does not exist at all. . JezMyOpinion from The South on August 29, 2019: Fern, omg, what are you smoking? They already know exactly what they're going to say, and they don't deviate from it. Poor John Haglerwe would stand there and make these eloquent and long-winded arguments and the judge would listen patiently, knowing all the while he was going to overrule him. He also stated that he never actually saw the police officer get out of the car. Darlie's blood was found to have dripped onto it, and there were wheel marks where it appeared the vacuum had been rolled through wet blood. Although her older son, 6-year-old Devon, died as well, the prosecution claimed that they only charged her with Damon's murder because, as a child under the age of 6, his murder qualified for capital punishment under Texas law. I have a pretty good idea of who was in there with Arkansas but I don't think it would be wise to speculate in an online forum. I think every last juror saw every last one of those pictures. Now, one might ask why Waddell would lie; what does he gain? There were millions of dollars worth of investments and development tied up in this desirable little crime-free community. Judge Audra Riley of Dallas County signed on order on Sept. 30 instructing multiple agencies including the Dallas County District Clerk, the Rowlett Police Department, the Southwestern Institute of Forensic Sciences, the Texas Department of Public Safety and the University of North Texas Center for Human Identification to collect their evidence from the Routier case and send it to the Forensic Analytical Crime Laboratory in Hayward, Calif. He trusted BJ / daughter Enough back then. and even Darlie knew the maid/friend whatever was smokin weed. theres your drug connection. years of it. A. I guess, I'm not sure on how long it took him. We may have to agree to disagree about Darin. If Devon had caused that kind of bruising, he had to have been kicking at her inner arms for a prolonged period of timea period of time that was longer than his actual attack. Karl was never able to pick out the other man, but sent a note back to Quinncy with one of the mugshots: "This is Arkansas.". But prior to going to the hospital, I thought he was given clothes to wear from Terry Neal across the street. The whole attack happened in a matter of minutes, and wasn't necessarily as noisy as some may assume. He even left a huge clue to his identity by cutting the screen in the shape of his first initial. The struggle wakes Devon, who isn't sure exactly what's going on, but he knows there's strangers in the house. There was no exact match to any prints that are in the systemincluding Darlie Routier's. Darlie is where she belongs. Not to mention, it doesn't appear as though she did a very good job, since blood is clearly visible on and around the sink. I'm stunned that Darlie's lead defense attorney Doug Mulder did not immediately jump on this discrepancy but I have long suspected that Mulder may have purposely "thrown" this case, for reasons known only to him. Bill Gorsuch was a neighbor who lived across the street and worked nights. 7) Blood under the glass and vacuum--now we're getting somewhere. One also must wonder if there was actual evidence of an intruder, did it conveniently disappear? Although the crime scene photos show that there was blood all over the house, what they don't realize is that the blood was not present at the moment the intruder left. Fibers believed to be from a sliced screen were discovered adhering to a bread knife from the kitchen. When it comes to criminal investigations, there are three main indexes utilized by law enforcement: offender profiles of those convicted of crimes; arrestee profiles of suspects, and forensic profiles collected from crime scenes. However, Matt Walling, the second officer on the scene, actually parked his vehicle in the alleyway behind the Routier's house; Gorsuch would not have been able to see the car from his vantage point. In several of these letters, Darlie stated that she knew who the killer was. I know that someone will likely make the argument that even if Arkansas and Dwayne did break into a house and stab young children in the Dallas area in June of 1996, who's to say that there wasn't a similar crime that was unrelated? But just because it's my theory doesn't mean it's right; you might have nailed it. I see. And didnt that famous attorney say after reviewing it all. He was upstairs in the bedroom with Darin, probably sound asleep and snoring away. Gorsuch also testified that when he saw Darin and Waddell together, no other police or paramedics had arrived at the scene yet. A. I walked back over to where she was, and I asked her again who had done it, and if there had been any problems in the house, or if they had had any problems with anybody that she might think would have done it, and she told me no, and she kept telling me, that the guy was still in the house. It has always amused me that Guilters so readily dismiss Rickels as a liar or a hysterical little woman who imagined the whole incident because she was watching a horror flick. Seeing those bloody, butchered children invoked anger in the nurses, most of whom were women. Because they thought the house was empty, and were taken by surprise. Okay. Waddell's response was that he did not; Walling stated that he did remember seeing it, but wasn't sure if it was there when he first came in, or if it was there later when he did a walk-through. The prosecution called a number of so-called experts and analysts to the stand. Well, if there was, I can't find a record of it. Bathrooms: 2. You seem to be one of the most thoroughly researched & credible sources out there regarding this whole mess. Rickels would not actually contact police with this information until June 11th, five days after the murders. Groggy and confused, Darlie instinctively followed the man through her kitchen toward the utility room that leads out to a garage. Q. Cron certainly had an impressive resume and over 30 years of experience, but sometimes this can work against a person. Did they ever recover the missing tapes of Sandra Halsey? Bedrooms: 3. Yea i don't believe it was someone who knew her either and the letter from Karl about them other inmates talking about this tragedy and there involvement it seem's that it is very likely those two males. After the birth of their third one, Drake, Darlie began to suffer from post-partum depression. I see nothing in them that definitively points to Darlie's guilt, but I do see numerous red flags with regard to how the case was handled by both the prosecution and the defense. When it came time for this family to lay the boys to rest, it was all about honoring them, their lives, and the things that made them happy. CODIS, or Combined DNA Index System, is a little more complex. Brian Pardo isn't actually an attorney. Darlie's bloody footprints were photographed underneath some of the glass, causing them to believe she broke the glass after the fact to make it look like there had been a struggle. Karl did not like what he was hearing about hurting little children and he confronted one of the men, a stocky, blonde-haired cowboy originally from Oklahoma, who went by the street name "Arkansas.". In my opinion, it is neither. Still, Karl had nothing to gain by telling this story. The court reporter, Sandra Halsey, pled the 5th Amendment when questioned in court regarding her substandard work. If the two police officers did not see this laying in the middle of the kitchen, it wasn't there. If the California lab, after comparing the many blood samples to the DNA profiles of the Routier family, determines that a foreign eligible profile has turned up, that sample is to be sent to Acadiana Criminalistics Laboratory in Iberia Parish, La., to determine if it matches the profile of anyone in the national DNA database. So please forgive me for not taking those transcripts as the holy grail of this case. Drops of blood from the boys, which were consistent with castoff from the blade, were found on the back of Darlie's night shirt. I told her not to worry about that. Darin had appliedand been turned downfor a $5,000 loan on June 1st. There were young children, in the room, and a fight broke out. 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